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UPDATED: Braindump Site Returns, Litigation Ongoing for Former Owner


5/14/2003 -- Troytec.com/Testkiller.com are back, in a way.

Troytec.com (also known as Testkiller.com), a popular braindump site that sold questions from Microsoft, CompTIA and other program's certification exams, shut down in June 2002 after police seized the assets of their former owner, Garry Neale, during a Texas county criminal investigation based on a complaint filed by Microsoft.

The site returned earlier this week under new ownership. It appears to be offering similar content to the previous site, if not exactly the same: Google searches reveal that the questions provided in the site's Microsoft demo are word-for-word the same as those found on many other braindump sites, both free and paid, across the Web.

Because of civil and criminal litigation of such sites during the past few years, U.S-based braindump sites are now practically nonexistent. However, international offerings have grown, with many based in Pakistan, India and China. As of yet, no lawsuit, civil or criminal, has been filed against a site with owners based outside the U.S.

According to whois, the Troytec.com and TestKiller.com URLs are now registered to Ladish Ravdah, with an address in Maharashtra, India.

In an e-mail sent yesterday announcing the relaunch, the new owners appear to be confident that they will be immune from any litigation. "It won't happen again that troytec.com will go out of business," the e-mail read. "We have rooted our feet outside the US so that there's no fear of software giants trying to shut us down again."

The e-mail was signed Gary Neal, a misspelled version of the former owner's name. This misspelling is also used prominently on the new site's home page, under a large picture of "Neal" that declares him the CEO of the new Troytec.

In an interview with CertCities.com yesterday, Neale's attorney, John Convery, based in San Antonio, Texas, said that Neale has nothing to do with the new site. "[Neale] sold the URLs [Testkiller.com and Troytec.com]," Convery said. "[He] is not facilitating or endorsing any effort on the part of the new owner."

When shown the picture on the home page, Convery laughed: "That's not him."

Convery also said that Neale denies sending the e-mail, which appears to be sent from the San Antonio area to the same list Neale has used over the past year to keep interested parties updated on the progress of his legal case. It contained purported personal statements from Neale, including the following about previous litigation: "Kindly note that currently we will not reveal any other details like those related to our case against CompTIA etc. and how we were able to get through with all those legal hassles. Hence, I would request all my loyal customers not to send me e-mails and ask me any such questions."

The e-mail contains some inaccuracies. The CompTIA litigation mentioned above, a civil copyright and trademark case, was filed against Neale, and its resolution was widely publicized when the settlement became public in late 2001.

And, in fact, Neale's legal troubles are ongoing: Convery said that the former owner is still fighting to regain the assets seized last year, and that the Bexar County District Attorney's office still hasn't decided whether it will file criminal charges against Neale based on the Microsoft complaint. (Several calls to the Bexar County District Attorney's office seeking information on the status of the investigation were not returned.)

"He does not know who sent that e-mail," Convery said. "It wasn't him."

Convery said that they will be sending an e-mail to the new owners asking them to remove any references to "Neal" from the site and refrain from using it in future mailings.

"We are not trying to disparage the new owners...we just want to make sure it's clear [Neale] has nothing to do with the new site," he commented. "This has caught us totally off-guard."

CertCities.com sent an e-mail to Ravdah yesterday to try to confirm ownership of the site, the content of the study guides and who sent the e-mail, as well as asking for comment on the legal and "Neal" issues above, but did not receive a response by press time. We also attempted to reach Radvah by phone using the number listed in whois, but received only busy signals.

CertCities.com also contacted a spokesperson for Interland, the U.S.-based hosting company of the Testkiller.com URL, to try to confirm ownership of the site and who pays the site's hosting bills, but did not receive a response.

Several Web searches for "Ladish Ravdah" returned no results.

CertCities.com also contacted Microsoft and CompTIA for comment on the relaunch as well as what legal recourse, if any, programs have for international braindump sites in general. Microsoft did not respond. CompTIA could not respond by press time, but did say a statement may be forthcoming.  - B.N.

UPDATE (5/22/03): Since this story was posted, Interland responded that although AIRN states that they are hosting the site, they are not hosting Troytec.com. CompTIA and Microsoft declined our request to comment, both citing advice of their legal departments as the reason, and Troytec.com has removed the name "Neal" from its site and several mailings, but continues to use "Gary."



There are 69 CertCities.com user Comments for “UPDATED: Braindump Site Returns, Litigation Ongoing for Former Owner”
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5/24/03: DUMP-HUNTER from Australia says: Crikey, I checked out Kazaar and edonkey, plenty of braindumps there for everyone to download for free, so stop fighting and arguing about it. Listen mate I'm sick of the arguing, if you don't want to use dumps then just shut-up and let the rest of us get on with it, stone the crows and feed the crocs.
5/27/03: simon's brother from Malibu, CA says: BULLSH*T! BULLSH*T! BULLSH*T! and did I mean BULLSH*T! "F" certification
5/24/03: Anonymous says: Simi Valley? Ha ha ha! I grew up there!
5/27/03: Anonymous says: Braindumps support mo' money!
5/27/03: Ken Bishop from Silver Spring, MD says: I spent almost $8,000.00 on MOC training, for win 2000, I took a year off of work at a cost of $60,000 to complete the courses and tests I have, 12 years of experience, I started with Novell 2.15 and I have not had one good interview in the DC metro area in two years. I have 4 fortune 1000 companies on my resume. The government has gone crazy for polygraph security clearances, yet 3-4 times a year a major scandal occurs, that reveals that the current government security structure does not work. There are so many governments IT jobs that go unfilled that salaries for secured IT professional are at the 80-100K range. It does not mater that some will get a tax cut. The rich get their money back, we get the bill. The President just raised the debt ceiling by 1 trillion dollars. People Wake up and vote it is our future that is at risk. By the way does anyone remember that Government IT for 30 years created the worst IT systems on Earth. Think IRS, GSA, DOD, HHS, EPA and of course the FBI and its 9/11 failure. Does anyone remember that Government IT sector was considered second tier technical employment? Stop H-1B visa extensions and increase the tax deductions for all of this IT training that we must complete to get a job. Once the economy recovers, that is not assured look at Japan, I am going to make you future employers pay far asking me to take a 20 K drop in salary as all the top fail management of corporate America stole the money from us while demanding that we work 6-7 day work weeks for bonuses or options that they stole.
5/27/03: Anonymous says: Braindumps are not always a truted site to get the right answer but can help you testing yourself. Most of the braindumps got wrong answers. Who cares if some people are cheating at the end the good one always succeed.
5/28/03: Anonymous says: I used Troytech to pass over 30 exams. So happy to see them back!
5/29/03: need sum money! says: Oh yea? Where the hell are they now? They've vanished, like a fart in the wind!
5/29/03: Anonymous says: lol, need sum
5/30/03: need sum says: Luck may be changin'! Today, a "Coming Soon" page pops up at Troytec.com; still nothing under "Test Killer".
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