More Than Just Canada: Microsoft Debating World-Wide MCSE Name Change
6/20/2001 -- Microsoft Certified Professional Magazine reports in its July 2001 issue that Microsoft is considering a world-wide revision of the Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer (MCSE) moniker.
The article, which appears on page 16 of the issue, says that "Microsoft has considered following suit with IBM and Cisco, both of which use 'expert' in the name of their premier credentials...[Microsoft is] also debating the possibility of revamping the title altogether." Eckhardt Bohme, a certification manager for Microsoft, is cited as the source of the information.
Although it has previously been speculated that Microsoft would change "Engineer" to "Expert" for Canadian MCSEs due to conflicts with licensing boards there, the article is the first time that Microsoft has publicly acknowledged that it is considering changing the name of the title for all MCSEs, or perhaps even scrapping the acronym for something else altogether.
Currently, the magazine's online counterpart, MCPMag.com, is conducting a survey to get MCSEs reaction to possible replacement titles. According to Dian Schaffhauser, editorial director of MCP Magazine, the information gathered will be shared with Microsoft. (Note: MCP Magazine and CertCities.com are both owned by 101communications.)
To participate in the poll, go to http://mcpmag.com/surveys/mcse. For more information about Microsoft's certification program, click here.  -B.N
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| 6/27/01: Gheorghe says: |
Ha, ha...I think is a problem of business.The Microsoft marketing found a new way to engineers sorry experts moneys...So, how you fill your so old MCS Engineer ? You must take teh new name on your paper! You fill something inside you like a desire? The new EXPERT title from Microsoft wait for you...For just 150 $ you can .... So, attention LINUX ! The King is here! |
| 6/29/01: Gehan says: |
I agree with Michael Jameson's sentiments, and beleive the present moniker with it's engineering connotation should stay. However if the words MCSE are not changed, I guess I can get used to live with it. |
| 7/1/01: Ralph says: |
I entirely agree with Terry McCammon. There is life beyond the East and West US coasts. In practically all Countries except USA and UK the use of the word engineer after the name of someone who is not legally qualified is a criminal ofense. In the rest of the civilised world to be an Engineer - or an Architect -you need to have passed a high level university course, normally 5 to 6 years, be recognised by the Education Authority of the Country and registered with the fellowship or professional college. As an European graduated Engineer I found it ridiculous to call engineer someone who passed six exams of some 30 multiple choice questions controlled by a private company. I have passed the exams in a snap and the least I can say is that from an university point of view they shouldn't even be called exams. I don't bother adding MCSE to my business card and in fact I prefer not to. |
| 7/1/01: MS PSS team says: |
This is for our good friend, MR. Steve, the one and only that has this Title: MCSI Microsoft Certified Stupid Idiot. Maybe he will be promoted to MCSI+M Microsoft Certified Stupid Idiot + Moronic |
| 7/2/01: Norski says: |
I'm a canadian who will soon be a MCSE (only 2 exams left) and I'll be calling myself a systems ENGINEER. I could care less what a bunch of university snobs think. It's all a bunch of crap. Besides, all engineers do is fix their own mistakes...if it wasn't for their incomptence, they'd be out of a job. |
| 7/2/01: rick says: |
My friend Mr.Farid is a MCSB (Microsoft Certified Stupid Bangladesh) |
| 7/2/01: rick says: |
My friend Alan is a MCSS (Microsoft Certified Stupid Sohai) |
| 7/3/01: dog says: |
my name is Steve...and i'm an IDIOT....... yea pi.. I'm an IDIOT...idiot....well idiot muakakakakaka |
| 7/7/01: Rocky says: |
I don't care whether they call us engineers or experts or embicils(sic). What bothers me is that so many people seem to approve of Microsoft's predeliction for taking words with more or less standard meaning in the real world and "innovating" them into words which apply only to the world according to microsoft. Or of the notion that Microsoft should have the right to tell any country's government(especially a foreign country) that they should rework their laws and traditions to bring them into line with Microsofts paranoid, megalomaniacal designs. (By the way, I have both an engineering degree and an MCSD and MCT) |
| 7/8/01: Michael MCSE, CCNA, A+ says: |
This is to the "Man of Constant Sorrow" WHO GAVE YOU YOUR FIRST JOB? I bet you were just as incompetent as the rest of when you first finished you MCSE. No amount of classroom education can prepare you for managing networks in the field. I have come to understand that MCSE is nothing more that a way to get familiar with terminology and basic networking. Consider yourself fortunate you were able to get job and gain experience. I have an MCSE, CCNA, A+ certifications and am still job hunting. I also think that the CCNA is in danger of becoming as useless as the MCSE. Quit bitching about inexperienced people. Maybe you should consider training them if you know so much. The MCSE name is fine. |
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