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More Than Just Canada: Microsoft Debating World-Wide MCSE Name Change


6/20/2001 -- Microsoft Certified Professional Magazine reports in its July 2001 issue that Microsoft is considering a world-wide revision of the Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer (MCSE) moniker.

The article, which appears on page 16 of the issue, says that "Microsoft has considered following suit with IBM and Cisco, both of which use 'expert' in the name of their premier credentials...[Microsoft is] also debating the possibility of revamping the title altogether." Eckhardt Bohme, a certification manager for Microsoft, is cited as the source of the information.

Although it has previously been speculated that Microsoft would change "Engineer" to "Expert" for Canadian MCSEs due to conflicts with licensing boards there, the article is the first time that Microsoft has publicly acknowledged that it is considering changing the name of the title for all MCSEs, or perhaps even scrapping the acronym for something else altogether.

Currently, the magazine's online counterpart, MCPMag.com, is conducting a survey to get MCSEs reaction to possible replacement titles. According to Dian Schaffhauser, editorial director of MCP Magazine, the information gathered will be shared with Microsoft. (Note: MCP Magazine and CertCities.com are both owned by 101communications.)

To participate in the poll, go to http://mcpmag.com/surveys/mcse. For more information about Microsoft's certification program, click here.  -B.N



There are 67 CertCities.com user Comments for “More Than Just Canada: Microsoft Debating World-Wide MCSE Name Change”
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6/20/01: Bill says: How about MSCCFP for Member of the Microsoft Cash Cow Feeding Program.
6/20/01: Nayyar says: Either it will be called an engineer or expert, it will not make any difference in the expertise of the person who attained MCSE. A student who spends 4 four years to complete his/her engineering degree compared to a person who do not have hands on experience and passes all the tests to get MSCE does make a difference. Nayyar Farooq, MCSE, CCNA, NET+
6/20/01: Simon says: My suggestion is: Microsoft Certified Enterprise Support Engineer (MCP) Enterprise Support Systems Architect (MCSE) Enterprise Support Solutions Architect (MCSD) Enterprise Support Expert (MCSE+MCSD) Because that's what we're supposed to do with the new certifications.
6/20/01: Mitch says: I think it would be a bad idea to make any changes at this juncture. The acronym has been established and is recognized by both computer and non-computer entities. To change would be to create confusion........something we can live without. MCSE - Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer is just fine. I am sure there are more important fish to fry.
6/20/01: Randy says: Leave it be. Name recognition is important and there have already been enough changes in the Microsoft certification program that we don't need anymore.
6/20/01: Michael says: To go from "Engineer" to "Expert" is obviously to devalue the certification. Engineer is active. Implied are designing, building, maintaining. Expert is passive. An expert purportedly knows a lot about something. What is done with that knowledge is another question. Engineer has many positive connotations, associated with great and necessary public and private works, serious study, professionalism. Expert has many negative connotations. The adjectives "self-proclaimed" and "highly paid" ("overpaid"?) spring to mind. Expert today, gone tomorrow. Redmond should not tinker with the title.
6/20/01: Sean says: I believe there should be some name change to differntiate MCSEs with the Windows NT 4.0 track and the Windows 2000 track
6/20/01: Jeff says: Mike Jameson really affected my opionion of the term 'expert'. He's right, engineer has many more positive connotations than expert, HOWEVER-Engineer is a protected term and techincally , it breaks the law in some places (or at least leaves one open to litigation issues...) . Here's my suggestion. Microsoft Systems Architect. (do they have domination of that term)???
6/20/01: F. Sigmund says: M.C.S.EXPLORER will do just fine. It will encourage Microsoft to to be proud of the Explorer in Windows, else just use EXPERT. Sigmund Topor
6/20/01: F. Sigmund says: M.C.S.EXPLORER will do just fine. For one thing the word EXPLORER is better than the word EXPLOSIVES, moreover Microsoft already has the EXPLORER anyways, so Y not just use it? ELSE just use EXPERT instead of EXECUTIONER for it reminds one of the Blue Screen of death. I hate death. Sigmund Topor
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