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Microsoft Considers Change on Pass/Fail Policy


4/10/2002 -- Changes may be in the air for the pass/fail scoring system Microsoft implemented on its certification exams earlier this year. (See "Microsoft Moves to Pass/Fail Scoring System"). In an interview during Tech-Ed, being held this week, Director of Microsoft Certification Anne Marie McSweeney said her group is trying to "look at the approach we took before... to give [testing candidates] more information."

Previous exams provided candidates with a diagnostic report at the end of the test, which provided both a numeric score and a module-by-module summary of his or her performance. This provided candidates who failed an exam with an idea about those areas of the test objectives that needed additional study.

The latest approach, widely scorned by many MCPs, provides only a pass or fail verdict.

McSweeney said the group will probably not return to a numeric scoring, since a pass score changes depending on what version of an exam the candidate has taken and what questions are in that particular exam.

But, she said, Microsoft does want to provide at least enough information to those candidates who fell short so that they know whether they failed "miserably or just a little bit."

McSweeney said the group may hold online chats about the topic with MCPs in the near future to get feedback.  -- D.S., courtesy of MCPMag.com



There are 46 CertCities.com user Comments for “Microsoft Considers Change on Pass/Fail Policy”
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4/17/02: Tom Sentman from Redlands, CA says: What a concept...pass fail. Just think, Monday Night Football is Win-Lose. Just play ball. Olympics scoring would be discontinued. Run, swim, dance, race, etc. No judges, no scoring. All we need is a mechanical arm that shows a thumbs up or a thumbs down. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi of Green Bay Packers fame "If winning isn't everything, why do we keep score?" But then maybe Vince had it wrong. Keep the scores, dump the person-persons who have a minute view of the real working world.
4/18/02: Oseme from Nigeria says: D current system is excellent been it gives u ur strengths and weaknesses in different areas.Even when u pass an exam, u would still like to know ur srongholds, wouldn't u? Yeap i think so!
4/18/02: Eric from Paris says: huh gee , MS is watering down my hard work again ..... i did most of the exams of MCSE and MCDBA program right after the beta release at the time where even books where'nt out yet , at that time NT4 certs where supposed to be history in a short while ....... i basically crammed for nothing ... i could have taken my time and wait for the material .... and now they whant to make it even easier , gee i feel RIPED OFF here (oh gee right i've got my early achiever card). for those complaining about how hard it is ..... well yeah thats the name of the game ,i dont see why some should have it easier then others by having to study only the module they've missed instead of the entire material ,and by the way major paine , i was out of work too at the time , failled a few (like designing security) but i did'nt complain swalloed the pain and did it anyway , you're looking for a paper cert .
4/18/02: Christopher Chambers says: Comments should be posted after an exam is completed providing the testee a module-by-module summary of their performance.
4/18/02: Fran from Orlando says: I like to know what my score is, after all the work I put into a test I want to know where I need more work even if I pass. There is a certain satisfaction in acheiving a top score along with your certification.
4/18/02: gadgetcoder from Indiana says: "John from Texas" has pointed out one of the great GREAT problems with Microsoft certifications specifically, and Microsoft in general. It IS their "bat and ball". I agree with "Patrick from Rhode Island" that Microsoft would be likely to raise the standards just to get more retests. It would not be the first time they have pulled crap like this. Their record of honestly IS above reproach, after all (ACKKK!) Scores DO matter, whether or not Microsoft "fixes" the pass/fail mark. Someon who does well benefits, while someone who does doesn't do quite so well has some idea where they need improvement. Withou the scores this is impossible to determine. But to summarize, I think the tests need to be administered independently (NOT by Microsoft, or its affiliates).
4/18/02: Stephen from Illinois says: Pass or Fail is fine but people who Fail should be able to know what areas they were weak in.
4/18/02: Barko from Seattle says: I could not disagree more with views like that of entropy who thinks scoring is only relevant to those who fail, and those who fail an exam only do so because they are lazy or incompetent. Although I have never failed an exam, I work with a very intellignet SQL developer who failed the SQL Admin design twice before he passed it. Basically becasue he had trouble wiht a couple concepts, and was new to testing and new to MS trick questions. Secondly, even though I pass, I would like to know my strengths and weaknesses. I would think that Micro$oft would like me to know too so I can be the best engineer possible. If entropy does not care what his final score is, only that he passes, perhaps he is the one who only wants just enough knowledge to get by. When an exam can be passsed with only a score of 640 or so like many can, that leaves a lot of room for missed questions that the candidate would never know about.
4/18/02: Tom Scrivano from Costa Mesa, CA says: Has anyone considered that by not issuing scores Microsoft has made it slightly more difficult for people who use braindumps to ascertain whether a given set of test answers are valid? If you read the answers to a 50-question dump that has no score, then how do you know whether most of the answers are correct or whether 65% of the answers are correct?
4/19/02: Don from Texas says: What does it say for the MSFT exams if they can't stick to a scoring concept. The ones I find of greater worth for MSFT certs are the actual product 228, 229 224. I have multiple vendor certs and the upgrade path for MSFT is the worst. Take the 240 - I had a lot of hands on, had taken the 220 and studied about a week, the test wasn't hard, but I failed, turned around the next day and took all 4 of the core and passed all of them in the mid 800 -mid 900s... ???? want gives.
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