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Microsoft Considers Change on Pass/Fail Policy


4/10/2002 -- Changes may be in the air for the pass/fail scoring system Microsoft implemented on its certification exams earlier this year. (See "Microsoft Moves to Pass/Fail Scoring System"). In an interview during Tech-Ed, being held this week, Director of Microsoft Certification Anne Marie McSweeney said her group is trying to "look at the approach we took before... to give [testing candidates] more information."

Previous exams provided candidates with a diagnostic report at the end of the test, which provided both a numeric score and a module-by-module summary of his or her performance. This provided candidates who failed an exam with an idea about those areas of the test objectives that needed additional study.

The latest approach, widely scorned by many MCPs, provides only a pass or fail verdict.

McSweeney said the group will probably not return to a numeric scoring, since a pass score changes depending on what version of an exam the candidate has taken and what questions are in that particular exam.

But, she said, Microsoft does want to provide at least enough information to those candidates who fell short so that they know whether they failed "miserably or just a little bit."

McSweeney said the group may hold online chats about the topic with MCPs in the near future to get feedback.  -- D.S., courtesy of MCPMag.com



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4/12/02: Paul from Texas says: Sorry Folks...I missed the point...yes I agree that there should be something at the end of the test to let you know where you stand...possibly listing the modules that you passed in one column, and the failed ones in the other...no scores...percentages...graphs. Just say..."you screwed up here...but you did fine here...then I might spend more money....of course it is wrong to think that any of this is about money....:)
4/12/02: katman says: The current MS exam is just OK. The only thing I would do is do a section breakdown and say pass or fail per section. The grading/number system is almost dead in computer Certification Industry
4/13/02: Tom from Montgomery, AL says: I want the numbers!! Just pass-fail by section is not enough, I would want to know how much I passed or failed each section. If I have to take the exam again, I would want to not only study extra those sections I failed, but also those sections I barely passed. If I barely pass a section one time, I just very well could fail it the next time, even with the same level of expertise, just because of the random draw of the questions for each topic. I could get "easier" questions the first time, and "harder" the next. Getting the numbers is much better than pass-fail. Pass-fail seems to be favored by those who don't like competition and want everyone treated the same. But some people are better than others at various subjects, and number scores help demonstrate this.
4/13/02: entropy from los angeles, ca says: I have yet to fail any exam (be it MS, CompTIA, Citrix). So this non-issue is IRRELEVANT. Pass or Fail is fine with me. Pass-Fail #s only matter to those that only want to study just enough to get by (i.e have previously failed exams for incompetence, laziness, or just plain bad study habits). MS is trying to treat you like ADULTS here! Be professional. I'm with "Sid from UK" on this one except I don't feel MS should have to provide feedback. I doubt professional certs in other industries (law, real estate, etc) provide numbers on strengths 'n weaknesses...
4/13/02: Josh from Farmington says: I need to know my score because it will be averaged in with my final grade.
4/13/02: Patrick from Rhode Island says: Did anyone even think that going to pass-fail gives microsoft the ability to change the passing scores to an unbelieveably high number so the number of people passing becomes lower. We wouldn't even know that they did it. Giving the scores, is a checks and balances system for us to keep MS honest. OR do you think MS is already honest??? I wouldn't put it past Redmond to raise the scores up to generate more retakes and put a little more dough in their pocket. And if you don't agreed with me on that, then you are just fooling yourself. Especially when it comes time to post their profits for the quarter. "Profits are down and we might not make our predicted numbers...let me just raise up the passing scores on these exams... a hah...that helped a little...thank god for those unsuspecting tast takers....HAHAHAHHAHAH" That's probably whats going on.
4/13/02: Patrick Again from RI says: By the way, I'm not mad because I fail exams...I pass almost every exam I take because I know how much I need to know to pass. I look at the score and I say, "boy, to get a score that high, I need to study X number of hours", "boy, that exam must by hard, because the passing score is X", "I don't want to take that exam for an elective, the score seems unachievable, unless you work with it day in and day out" Now I get to say "duh, I wish I knew how much to study, duh"
4/14/02: Silvers from .lb says: I guess results should be printed on 2 sheets Pass/Fail should be on one and score+details on another sheet
4/17/02: Fred Lawrence from NY says: In order for the test taker to receive some guidance in the respective area of study ( certification) it certainly wouldn't hurt if Microsoft followed some sound education theory and practice: One is supposed to learn from one's errors. Some sort of scoring standard and evaluation report is called for. Even if you pass the exam there may be some areas that you need to reinforce. Microsoft should take a closer look at how CompTIA reports their test results. Specific areas are listed for remediation or further study.
4/17/02: Anonymous from VA says: Since I am paying for the exam, I expect to see the whole breakdown of scores-explaining where I did good and where I did bad.
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