Microsoft Announces Retirement of MCSE+I, MCP+Site Building
1/11/2001 -- Microsoft announced today via its Web site that it will retire its MCSE+Internet and MCP+Site Building certifications.
According to the announcement, most of the core exams for MCSE+I will be retired on February 28, 2001. Those candidates who earn the certification before that date will retain their title until Dec. 31, 2001. No upgrade path is planned.
Exam 70-055: Designing and Implementing Web Sites with MS Front Page 98, a core exam for the MCP+Site Building designation, will be retired on June 30, 2001. However, tests 70-057: Designing and Implementing Commerce Solutions with Microsoft Site Server 3.0, Commerce Edition, and 70-152: Designing and Implementing Web Solutions with Microsoft Visual InterDev 6.0 will continue to be available. Thus, candidates may continue earning the MCP+Site Building credential with exam 70-057 and 70-152 through June 30, 2002. No upgrade path is planned; instead, Microsoft recommends that candidates consider upgrading to the Microsoft Certified Solutions Developer (MCSD) certification.
These announcements weren't unexpected: The three exams required for MCP+SiteBuilding have been out of date for quite some time. And in its February 2001 issue, Microsoft Certified Professional Magazine will quote Anne Marie McSweeney, the acting director for Microsoft's Certification Skill and Assessment group, acknowledging the upcoming retirement of the MCSE+I. She said: "We won't be coming out with [a new version of the] MCSE+Internet. We've upped the bar on the MCSE. Those individuals who have been challenged [with the MCSE+I] - I think they're going to be challenged with the [new] MCSE [for Windows 2000]."
For more information, visit: http://www.microsoft.com/trainingandservices/default.asp?PageID=mcp&PageCall=retire.  - B.N.
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| 1/22/01: Marelo says: |
People, I guess w2k certs are being revamped due to WORLD´S need, not just US needings. As I see news stating that Cisco is founding India´s official government agencies toward capacitign professionals to come trough wires, companies are moving (may be slower than I would like, but will) to telecommuting pros, and products are changing standards at a constant increasing rate, the job marketplace needs CONSTANT renewed certs over new products and solutions - as a way of contracting people they not personally could know. As you can read in Certcities issue http://certcities.com/certs/microsoft/news/story.asp?EditorialsID=39, Cisco is retraying 3 tracks of its cert. And so IBM is in other ways, and so on. Go on! change to another vendor and you will find yourself with same challenge. I must also say that I hold w2k MCSE, hold MCSE since 1996 and spent just tests bucks. I just red the manuals and technet. If you will not have to deal with new products, ok, you don´t need mantain cert titles like MCSE. Alas, MCP ´is´ the right cert for anyone who have/want to be a ´specialist´ with a specific product/area of coverage. Let MCSE to generalists and designers. By the way, I think a MCP ´specialist´ must not have less $fee$ than a MCSE ´generalist´ - just the nature of the job is different, not the personal abilities and skill high levels. Companies do not look more (RH idiots?) to you past experience, they care about their future positionings in a battle to win the world commerce or maker/reseller fare. And future positionings involve emerging new standards, tools and hw/sw we, as LEGACY manteinants, have not time to keep with, may be. Ok, there is plenty of indians, asians, latin americans and others who could. Simply put, business intellectual capital is not USA´s monopoly (but I REALLY think that, in advanced, high scientific research, it HAS :-) and companies have to have constantly updated measure tools for using. If you are stressed, slow down and forget for some time your MCSE/SD cert, may be MCP is good enough for a while, and when REALLY needed, you can go back to tests - but, read more free literacy and keep this tests/booklets/industry away of your pocket... But, do not blame measure systems for our ´paranoic´ on being all-the-time MCSEs unnecessarily. That´s my tough, and I hope it can contribute for a more hollistic, globalized and internationalized point of view of cert. systems / industry and company users of them. |
| 1/22/01: MARCELO says: |
Oh, just another ´fact´ to contribute: here at our country we have more time people spend surfing web than americans (according to Jupiter researches) and a MCSE w2k is worthing about US$ 1500,00 ... and we had 19.000 seats last year at our classes. Did you ever heard about MOC courses given at NIGHT ? 689, 688 and so on, 2 weeks at night, and people spending U$ 2000,00 in a MCSE trainning package, when their monthly revenue are about (mean) US$ 700,0 ...!? Just at our country, I imagine another ones... Best regards, Marcelo E. Sauaf MCT since 1996 Sao Paulo - Brasil |
| 1/22/01: Kevin says: |
I work as a Network Analyst. I started on my MCSE 4.0 track in February and completed it in Nov. I for one am disappointed that my certification will not be valid after Dec. 31,2001. I was under the impression when I started my track by my AE at the school I attended that jobs would be flying at me. I was naive. Also though, I believe the "kids" with no experience who sit on the internet and read brain dumps all day have ruined what could have been a very good certification. I can understand why Microsoft has dropped the NT 4.0 cert. They(Microsoft) are not the only ones to blame. Lets lay some of the blame to all the web sites out there that ask people to post test questions and brain dumps. I really thought this certfication thing was the thing to do. I am one of those out there who work with it everyday and studied my A** off to get certified. I feel cheated by the "kids and the internet" not Microsoft. They are just trying to build themselves back up like any business would. |
| 1/22/01: Ken says: |
Hello, Everyone...I just wanted to add my .02. It doesn't matter, how much we gripe about the certifications. Bottom line is, Microsoft is going to do what makes them more money. If that means changing certifications, that is what they are going to do. I hate to say it, but it is just a matter of time before we a flooded w/ win2k paper MCSEs, also. Anyone w/ internet access can study and pass these tests. If you don't want to persue Microsoft certifications. There are thousands out there that will take you place. So, Microsoft still wins. We need to take all this negative energy and focus it towards branching out into other areas (Cisco, Unix). That and experience are the only ways you are going to seperate yourself from the other million or so, certified. Just my thoughts...Good luck in what ever you decide to do!.....Ken Norton A+, MCSE+I, MCDBA, CCNA |
| 1/23/01: Greg says: |
Is it about making Microsoft more money? YES! Is MS's income stream from thousand's of techies getting recertified? NO! Bill Gates isn't the richest man in the world because a bunch if IS weeneies write exams at $100 a shot. Microsoft is betting it's future on Active Directory and .NET, the only way to get there faster is to get the techies behind the scene to know the new technology and be comfortable implementing it. How do you get techies to move to new technologies faster? Take away their their current comfort zone. I'm not happy about having to get recertified in such a short timeframe, and I may not immediately get it, but for the MCSE to be an industry valued certification they had to do something. The course of action they took adds value to their certiifcation and helps them implement new technolgy and sell more new product. |
| 1/23/01: Greg says: |
Just by reading some of the posting here, what will a CCNA /CCNP be worth 2 years from now? How many p***ed off MCPs are going to go down the Cisco track? With the lure of "BIG $$$$", the CCNA will be worthless in no time. BTW: How many MCPs have already had access to enerprise level architecture? Everyone who has said they are going to write CCNP exams have to realize they have to start at the bottom of the ladder all over again. |
| 1/23/01: Mary an NT4 MCSE says: |
I have seven years experience on network systems (Novell and Microsoft). I was downsized by my company. I found that I could not get the time of day in a watch factory without certification. So I studied my a** off and passed the NT4 certification exams. While this is nice, I'm sure when I go in for interviews, I will be told that while NT4 certification is nice, I don't have Win2K certification. Thanks for stopping by. I think Microsoft should adopt a policy similar to Novell -- once you certify on NT4, that's it. It would be like saying, Mary there have been changes in technology. You have to go back to college because your degree in CompSci is no good. This is a pure marketing decision. Microsoft, the search for more money. |
| 1/25/01: Steve says: |
I am Over the cert mode and tired of putting out money for this useless crap, I see it as a waste For Sale MCSE+I Cert cheap! |
| 2/8/01: Lan Admin says: |
MCSE= Temp$$$$ |
| 3/6/01: Kevin says: |
Let's face it, the world of certifications is a merry-go-round. Anyone that is certified that has not figured that out surely has not been certified very long. The real strength in certification comes from the skillset that is acquired from the certification process not the piece of paper that you get at the end. In the certification world the journey is at least as important as the destination. |
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