Cisco Extends ARCH, BGP Betas
4/8/2003 -- Cisco Systems has extended two beta exams -- Configuring BGP on Cisco Routers (BGP), for its Cisco Certified Internetwork Professional title; and Designing Cisco Network Service Architectures (ARCH), for its Cisco Certified Design Professional credential -- until Tuesday April 15.
When the discounted betas originally debuted, they were scheduled to be available only within February. As recently as last week, the betas were shown as closed on March 31. However, as of Monday, Cisco's Web site was updated to show the new deadline.
Certification programs like Cisco's often offer discounted beta exams to test new versions of tests before they officially go "live." Cisco is currently offering five other beta exams for various credentials.
All the betas are being offered for $50 (U.S.) at Prometric and Pearson Vue testing centers worldwide. Candidates who pass the betas receive credit toward certification. Cisco exams normally cost $125 (US).
For more information on participating in any of these betas, click here. -B.N.
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| 4/14/03: Anonymous says: |
Please don't interrupt the brainwashing process that the vendor and the employer you to follow. It is an interesting paradox that the employer requires it, yet that employee without the right experience has no value. So why not just focus on experience? |
| 4/14/03: Anonymous says: |
well, experience without a degree or any credential is no good either, just like my auto technician with more than 10yr experience in car repair won't be easily hired by Ford or Mercedes to be one of their senior technicians despite his experience...so experience alone isn't everything you need these days... |
| 4/15/03: Anonymous says: |
The individual that decides to work on generic problems of North American cars has pigeon-holed himself to do just that. Similarly, the individual that decides that to work on high performance machines will do just that. The technical certifications in that field have very specific hands on requirements and align themselves with the job. These paper Cisco certifications do not help to align an individual to do well in a technical job. You might argue that the CCIE is "hands on". Although this is true, the specializations for that cert are very focused. In other words, an R and S specialist will have to work just as hard as anyone else to develop and support telephony or security solutions. The concept of adding "techincal" letters after your name is piggy backing off of the time honored system of going to university and earning real designated letters. Letters that require years of dedication, committment and learning. Regardless of the discipline that is taken, anyone who has gone through the experience knows that that person has desirable, employable qualities even at a base level. I am glad to see that more employers are placing little weight on technical certs and focusing on what experience the individual has. What annoyes me the most are those people that try to pass themselves off as "knowing something" and as being technically capable because they are "CCNP, CCNA..." Get real. If you have Cisco specific technical experience do these certs add any value to your ability to do your job. No! If they don't add value to the job, then no value should be placed on them. |
| 4/15/03: Anonymous says: |
If so, then why are you here in a certification forum? |
| 4/15/03: Anonymous says: |
So you think 4yr degree is so much of a value than cert? I have 4yr university degree in computer science, do I feel I know so much from those classes? NO! What I was taught was complete basics that don't even apply in real world scenario and instead, studying for certs have been giving me much more knowledge and more real life experience than sitting in the class for a lecture or a short 1 hour lab of NOTHING. The ASP class that I took didn't even cover half of the Wrox book that was used as the textbook and the teacher didn't even know much more than the students. Same goes with Java class. The only networking class that I took only covered basic PC/network hardware, basic networking principles, slight intro to OSI layers, and basic Win NT4 (it was 1999). Not even half of A-plus/Network-plus exam material, and each class was 4-5 months long. So you think degree is better than studying for certs? NO! Oh maybe yes because I took those sociology class, Phylosophy, Geography as General Education requirements for any degree regardless of their use in computer/networking world that I'm pursuing. But without it, regardless of experience you got, good job is still hard to come by. And you think degree can't be purchased as certs can be braindumped? Welcome to online degree, bachelors, masters, pHd, you name it! Even now with this degree and some certs, I'm still jobless. Again we're talking formal education here...set aside self experience which without degree/cert backing is also of no use...as stated above. |
| 4/15/03: Anonymous says: |
There's a big difference between Oscar Myer University and Harvard, hopefully employer's can figure that out. |
| 4/21/03: anonymous says: |
Actually, Harvard (and a lot of other colleges) is-are way overpriced. The cost of tuition has FAR exceeded the average wage earners ability to pay for said tuition (I've heard stories of students graduating with a debt of 18-30 thousand just in Loans). The real shame here is that HR departments (along with many schools) have equated college degree equals instant job (got news for you folks, this isn't the case anymore). Btw, a Degree from Oscar Myer U plus work experience will beat a recent grad from a Ivy League school, hands down. |
| 4/21/03: Anonymous says: |
degree, cert, experience, none is good alone but to get them all in a snap of fingers ain't as cheap as talking. it takes much time, money, effort, brain, headache, heartache, etc. in fact many who are worried are among those who have only the first two and trying to get the last. so if you're saying, get degree! get cert! get experience! get a job! well asking is easy, talking is cheap, doing is tough! |
| 4/22/03: Anonymous says: |
You fools have ignored the most important element of getting ahead...It's who you know. Why do you think there are always some idiots at the exec level? Some of those guys went to toilet paper U. |
| 4/23/03: chris from europe says: |
Well, if you want to advance in profession you can get experience (but it takes 1 year for each year of experience) and you can get certs (and here it depends only on how sharp you are) which is a faster result. Nethertheless , even if some say certs doesn't count, is more than nothing... |
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