There are 14  user Comments for “CIW No Longer for Sale”
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| 12/19/02: Anonymous says: |
Man, this is one very depressed market. |
| 12/19/02: Peter from Canada says: |
Thats GOOD NEWS BUT STILL PROSOFT (CIW) HAS TO IMPROVE LOTS OF THINGS LIKE: 1. Improve the paper Quality of Certification (VERY IMPORTANT) 2. There must be a transcript site from where candidate can validate their score reports /certifications. 3. it should not be a book company only. 4. CIW (PROSOFT) must include a lapel pin in certifcation welcome kit. 5.CIW (PROSOFT) must include a wallet card in certification welcome kit like microsoft cisco etc. 6. UPDATE YOUR COURSES. |
| 12/19/02: Kevin from Portland, OR says: |
Yes, obviously the inclusion of a lapel pin will improve their bottom line, as well as, improved paper quality. Some of that antique looking stuff would be nice. Personally I stuff all my certs in a file folder and really don't care. Regards. |
| 12/20/02: David from Sudbury, MA says: |
I think that certs are largely a retail proposition. Companies value certs to varying degrees but there is no external pressure to mandate them. If, on the other hand, there was regulatory pressure then the certs would have a tangible rather than a perceived value. In any case, I don't think that there will ever be a regulatory requirement. Instead, I think that as long as the job market is soft and income is tight retail customers will rarely appear at the door of companies whose bread and butter is bsed on getting certified. |
| 12/24/02: Anonymous says: |
In other words, no one wants to buy this lemon of a cert. company! |
| 12/24/02: Mohd. Jameel from Cairo says: |
It looks like nobody wants to buy this crappy company with worthless certification. Poor shareholders still hanging on to this losing company. The CIW certification is the laughing joke in my country. I run training center in Cairo and whenever I mention about CIW I get good laughs from my student as worthless piece of crap. Prosoft, please dump CIW nonsense and start focussing on 'REAL' and 'PRACTICAL' education. There is no such thing called 'vendor neutral' web master. You are either expert on IIS and-or Apache. What you are portraying is jack of all trades equalling nothing. Remember you are no Microsoft or Cisco. |
| 12/30/02: Jim Adcock from Austin TX says: |
Well, I am glad they are going to be around for a littlr longer. While a few goodie bag items and nicer paper for the certificate would be nice, they in no way enhances the company's bottom line, or mine. I dont get certs because of the cracker jack toys... and I really don't get the certs because they show off that I know stuff (though that is part of it). I get certs because they demonstrate that, while I have been on this career path for only a few years, I learn QUICKLY and can adapt to any technology thrown at me in short order. I'm not looking to be a jack-of-all-trades (and master of none)... instead I want to be the guy that, no matter what my employers throw at me, I can master it and produce re$ults. As I wrote elsewhere ( LINK REMOVED -- TOO LONG. SORRY! ) several certs can be acquired for the price of two exams for MCSE certified people with the right mix of MS exams. And finally, when the potential employer comes down to making the final choice between you and the other guy, in this tough market you need every advantage you can get. As far as vendor neutral, there is no such thing as a "vendor neutral" network, but that doesn't stop MS from recognizing the value of vendor neutral A plus, Network plus and Server plus certs for earning the MCSA. And if __MS of all companies can recognize the value of vendor neutral.... |
| 12/27/02: Bobby from Brooklyn NY says: |
Prosoft needs to improve the value of the CIW series, including som sort of recertification. If the recertification is handled properly AND the alue is increased, the recertification process in itself could generate a revenue stream. |
| 12/27/02: Felipe from Los Angeles says: |
I am so glad to know I did not pay for my CIW but my heart goes out to those who paid good money for a worthless paper cert. The COMPTIA, Microsoft, RedHat and Cisco have far more weight and reputation than the poorly implemented ProSoft CIW program. I know since I worked at New Horizons CLC and trained people who were paying thousands of dollars for a cert to prove they had web skills. Stuff you could do and learn on your own. |
| 12/30/02: Anonymous says: |
Please recommend a web cert program that does have value in the workplace; email privately if necessary |
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