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Oracle Adds Training Requirement To DBA Title


6/26/2002 -- On June 15, Oracle instituted a policy requiring those seeking its Oracle Certified Professional Database Administrator 9i certification to take a related training course.

Effective immediately, candidates new to the 9i OCP DBA track must take one of the following classes from Oracle University:

  • Oracle9i Introduction to SQL
  • Oracle9i Database Fundamentals I.
  • Oracle9i Database Fundamentals II
  • Oracle9i Database Performance Tuning
  • Oracle9i Database New Features (available to those with Oracle DBA experience on previous releases)
  • Introduction to Oracle: SQL and PL/SQL

To fulfill the requirement, candidates can attend classroom training (starting at $2,000 U.S.) or use one of Oracle University's e-learning products (starting at $399 US).

Those who have passed at least one Oracle 9i exam before June 15 are exempted from the requirement, as are those upgrading their OCP from the 8i version.

"We are moving to the class requirement in order to protect the value and integrity of the Oracle Certification Program and ensure that the value of the accreditation remains high for the people who attain all levels of OCP," Oracle said of the new policy.

Michael Ritacco, a Senior DBA in Houston, Texas and the founder of OracleNotes.com, a Web site for OCP candidates, said he likes the idea of mandatory training. "At least the training requirement will ensure that a candidate was presented a minimum amount of information along with some hands-on experiences in the labs," he said. "If the certification program produces too many paper DBAs, you lower the quality of the certification, and that hurts everyone."

As for the additional cost, Ritacco suspects that many DBAs will shrug it off. "If you're working as a DBA, even if you're not certified, employers will usually at least pay for the upgrade class, which qualifies under these requirements," he continued.

Other DBAs aren't quite as enthusiastic. "I think it's a horrible idea," said one poster in CertCities.com's forums. "The idea of a certification is to show that you've developed skills in an area. This smacks of Oracle simply trying to help pad their bottom line at the expense of professionals who are, in the end, only serving as a positive source of advertising for the company in the first place."

Damir Bersinic, DBA, trainer and author of CertCities.com's Oracle column, says he's also suspicious of Oracle's financial motives: "They don't make money from tests...they make money from training. Who gets the money here? Oracle."

""It's not going to do anything to improve the quality of the program," he continued. "It would be different if they had said everyone must take Performance Tuning or Backup and Recovery...The way it is now, anyone can walk into Introduction to 9i and come out not knowing much about Oracle, just about SQL syntax. "

According to Oracle, there are more than 115,000 Oracle Certified Professionals worldwide.

To find out more about Oracle's certification program, click here. To view the training policy in its entirety, click here.  - B.N.



There are 45 CertCities.com user Comments for “Oracle Adds Training Requirement To DBA Title”
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7/11/02: Newbie says: Well, it might well be the rich just getting richer and the poor getting poorer. How about those people who take those technical schools that offer Oracle DBA for cheaper? I was going to go for Oracle 9i ...might still go but IBM DB2 is trying to steal market share and with free online training and free exam vouchers they may just entice people to switch.
7/14/02: Tim says: I've seen a reference to IBM DB2 free online training and free exam vouchers more than once and would like to compare this with getting an Oracle cert. Can anyone supply a link to a page on IBM's website that discusses these opportunities?
7/17/02: Anonymous says: it was the oracle 8 (not 8i) that has been retired. you can still take the 8i track. Reguarding the Classes. I personally do not mind this. There are many "Paper" MCSEs, Oracle is just trying to keep from having "paper" OCPs...with the 8i tests you needed to know alot more then the 9i tests, because they added OMF (oracle managed files) as well as other things to automate alot of what pre-9i DBAs spent hours-day-weeks tweaking,planning,managing.....
7/18/02: Anonymous says: I suspect Oracle company is going into a financial crisis. Paper Cert. or NOT is depend on the interviewer who asking the tough questions to find the right person. Hiring an employee without testing any knowledge is a lose to a company. More power to the Paper Cert. However, if the employer ask the right questions than they don't need to be afraid of Paper Cert.
7/20/02: Anonymous says: THIS IS JUST PLAIN GREEDY!!!!
7/20/02: Anonymous says: SQL SERVER is just as good a product anyways.
7/28/02: Mukesh Srivastava says: Unbelievable! How could Oracle put such a harsh pre-condition for going for certification. I think such training is useless and is an attempt to discourage the new aspirants wanting to get certified. It appears Oracle wants to restrict the number of certified DBAs by doing so. If they really want to bring down the number of certified DBAs they should make more hard certification exams and also hike the passing threshold. Nevertheless first getting Oracle 8i certified and then attempting the 9i is a good way out. Also, guys who already have taken an exam before June 15 would feel lucky having done so.
7/29/02: Alberto L. Simpson from Cleveland Ohio says: People..All of you talking about it is better to take Oracle 8i you are talking hot air. For you information at the end of this year if not from the end of this summer most Technical Schools like New Horizons and Tech Skills ect are not even offering it and it will be a waste of money because most DBA's are now offering 9i upgrade test and also courses dealing in 9i. Most companies yes are still on Oracle 8i "FOR THAT PERSON WHO SAID THAT COMPANIES DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ORACLE 8I AND 9I, 9I ISN'T THAT MUCH DIFFERENT". You need to do your research and if it were that much different then 8i people wouldn't just have to take a upgrade test they would have to go through all the courses. Think about it. "AND FOR THAT PERSON WHO SAID THAT WORKING FOR TEMP AGENCIES THEY PAY CRAPY WELL THE ONES YOU HAVE BEEN TO PAY CRAPY BECAUSE IF YOU DO YOU RESEARCH THEN IF YOU GO TO LIKE RHI CONSULTING THEY PAY AVERAGE FOR 8I OR 9I $55-60k WITH EXPERIENCE BUT COMPANIES OUT HERE ARE DESPERATE FOR ORACLE PEOPLE". So go to the right ones and get back with me. But you people you are to cheap to pay the money find another career because technology is expensive. Stop dogging 9i because within the next year you will be taking you upgrade test. Oracle 9i is great and better than 8i if you know anything about the two. Thanks Alberto
7/29/02: Alberto L. Simpson from Cleveland, Ohio says: Dave, This is for you and you only. I think that the message that you left on 7-10-02 is the stupidest thing that I have ever heard. First of all you said that Microsoft Certifications are easy to get and they are not yes they have more certified people but it isn't easy you still have to study and still have to get hands on. And to address something else Oracle isn't for experienced people only and you cannot get the certification just from reading the books. I agree but Colleges do not teach Oracle so where does one get the certification. That is why you apply for jobs after the first two exams as a Oracle Associate so that you get experience they are companies that need DBA badly but one could start out in a little firm and work there way up. I have seen people who finished the cert that way and are now making over $75K. I think that many people on here are very discouraging and you people need to stop talking bad about this certification because this is one of the most sought after certifications on the market and for you people who think that IBM and SQL Server are better than Oracle than you are sick and need counseling because 90% of companies especially fortune 500 are on oracle software no matter paltform that it is on. Do research before you leave these stupid comments people. Alberto
9/12/02: Bertram Moshier from Houston, TX says: Well, Oracle changed the date from 06-15-2002 to 09-01-2002. They also "Grandfathered" all who exist on 09-01-2002 OCPs. While I planned on getting my 8i and 9i certification over the coming months, I changed my schedule and worked quicker. With 4 years Oracle DBA (and applications DBA) experience, I completed all five test in about a month (while also doing a 50 hour a week contract). Now, it is on to Oracle 9i. The real issue (IHMO) is how they reduced the 9i OCP by lowering the testing requirement to 4 tests (for new candidates). The Certified Master (2 day test) looks interesting. As for the education requirement, book learning by itself doesn't mean a lot. Yet, experience by itself doesn't cover all the areas (just those your employer needed). A combination is of better value. Yet, combining isn't Oracle's responsibility to validate. NOTE: The training requirement by Oracle does NOT say it MUST be by Oracle U. It says by Oracle U or approved trainers. I discovered my local University (University of Texas at Houston) is on the approved list. Maybe a college near you is also on the list! (No I do NOT work for Oracle. I'm doing contracts as I find them (or they find me). My resume is at: www.bmoshier.net ).
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