SQL Server 2008 Cert
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Printed Date: 03 January 2010 at 6:04am
Topic: SQL Server 2008 Cert
Posted by: rstein6
Subject: SQL Server 2008 Cert
Date Posted: 15 March 2008 at 6:22am
Fairly recently, Microsoft started testing/certifying for SQL Server 2005, replacing MCDBA with MCITP - SQL Server 2005.
How long would you suspect be before they test/certify for SQL Server 2008 (as a replacement perhaps) for SQL Server 2005?
Thanks in advance.
Bob |
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Posted by: BosonMichael
Date Posted: 15 March 2008 at 10:03am
They're not coming very soon, but they are coming: http://blogs.msdn.com/trika/archive/2008/02/27/be-the-first- to-know-about-vs2008-and-sql2008-exams.aspx - link
The MCDBA exams for SQL 2000 won't be retired until 2009, so that's still a valid option: http://blogs.msdn.com/trika/archive/2008/03/12/wee-list-of-e xams-that-will-retire-in-2009.aspx - link
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BosonMichael
MCSE+I, MCSE: Security, MCSE: Messaging, MCDST, MCDBA, MCTS, OCP, CCNP, CCDP, CNE, SCSA, Security+, Linux+, Server+, Network+, A+
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Posted by: rstein6
Date Posted: 15 March 2008 at 6:05pm
Michael, thank you for the info.
Would you not think it's better for a novice like myself to prepare/learn the MCITP SQL Server 2005 VS the MCDBA with SQL Server 2000?
What would be the logic of preferring to start out with MCDBA if it will be obsolete much sooner?
Bob |
Posted by: BosonMichael
Date Posted: 15 March 2008 at 7:06pm
It's up to you... but SQL 2000 is still being used by many companies.
If you were choosing between two candidates with equivalent experience levels... and one had only the MCITP SQL 2005 certification and the other had BOTH the MCDBA SQL 2000 certification AND the MCITP SQL 2005 certification... who would you hire?
The logic is this: It's better to be knowledgeable about both than just one. ;) Sure, SQL 2000 will be obsolete sooner than SQL 2005... but answer this: do you think I'm a *worse* tech for being certified as an MCSE on NT4 (as well as 2000 and 2003)?
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BosonMichael
MCSE+I, MCSE: Security, MCSE: Messaging, MCDST, MCDBA, MCTS, OCP, CCNP, CCDP, CNE, SCSA, Security+, Linux+, Server+, Network+, A+
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Posted by: rstein6
Date Posted: 16 March 2008 at 4:38pm
Michael, good point, but the assumption is that if you are going to choose just one to start with, why not start with what is new and "up ande coming"?
In fact, my hope is to learn and try to become certified in SQL 2005, then as soon as it is out there, learn and get certified in SQL 2008....Certainly, it'd be nice to have 2000, 2005 AND 2008 - but I have to sleep and eat once in a while too!
Bob |
Posted by: BosonMichael
Date Posted: 16 March 2008 at 5:17pm
rstein6 wrote:
| Michael, good point, but the assumption is that if you are going to choose just one to start with, why not start with what is new and "up ande coming"? |
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Two reasons:
1) The old exam will, at some point, no longer be available... preventing you from getting it and looking like an "old pro".
2) SQL 2000 is still HEAVILY used by companies. In comparison, companies won't move to SQL 2008 for a while to come.
coolshock1 wrote:
| In fact, my hope is to learn and try to become certified in SQL 2005, then as soon as it is out there, learn and get certified in SQL 2008....Certainly, it'd be nice to have 2000, 2005 AND 2008 - but I have to sleep and eat once in a while too! |
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Once you learn the basics of SQL 2000, it should be no trouble at all to tackle 2005 and 2008. There are differences, but the versions are not mutually exclusive... what you learn in one is generally useful for all. ;)
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BosonMichael
MCSE+I, MCSE: Security, MCSE: Messaging, MCDST, MCDBA, MCTS, OCP, CCNP, CCDP, CNE, SCSA, Security+, Linux+, Server+, Network+, A+
Served proudly, US Army, 98C Analyst, '89-'92
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Posted by: Crito
Date Posted: 20 April 2008 at 10:18pm
There is no MCITP: SQL Server 2005 certification. There's a MCTS: SQL Server 2005. The MCITP is supposed to be job-role specific, so it's MCITP: Database Administrator. Which is part of the problem, when the 2008 tests come out there won't be a way to differentiate MCITP's with experience on the new version from those with experience on the old. If you search the job boards that's really all anyone wants to know... how much experience you have with a certain version. Heck, most employers even want it broken down by SQL Server feature -- i.e. how much DTS or SSIS experience, how much SSRS experience, how much T-SQL coding experience, etc. The new high-end Microsoft certs just don't align with what employers really want to know about candidates, so I don't think there will ever be much demand for the MCITP or MCA.
That said, since I already have my MCDBA and MCTS: SQL Server 2005, I'll likely be taking the single upgrade exam to MCITP: Database Administrator sometime soon. In three years when it expires not so sure I'll renew it though. |
Posted by: Crito
Date Posted: 20 April 2008 at 10:43pm
| But you're right in thinking that way. What they should have done is MCTS: SQL Sever 2005 being someone who knows the basics, MCITP: SQL Server 2005 being an intermediate level DBA, and MCA: SQL Server 2005 being an expert who knows absolutely everything about the product. Instead they decided to dictate job-roles to employers and that's just never going to fly, IMVHO. |
Posted by: Crito
Date Posted: 20 April 2008 at 11:01pm
And while I'm spouting off... the traditional delineation between novice, intermediate and expert levels of competence in IT is: operator, administrator and engineer.
Why they had to muck that up too I'll never know. Same reason the SQL Executive had to become the SQL Agent I suppose. :o
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