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Printed Date: 24 October 2007 at 12:32am
Topic: CISCO
Posted by: CIS2CO
Subject: CISCO
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 5:25am
| I have been told that Cisco is bringing out new version of CCNA 640-802 in August 07. I am preparing for exam according to 640-801 the older version. Does it worth carrying on prepartion for 640-801? how much 802 gonna different to 801.Does it worth to buy exam material for older version. Thanks |
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Posted by: Headhunter
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 5:41am
| www.cisco.com/go/ccna ------------- Koen CCSI#30501 CCNP CCIP CCVP CCSP CCDP CQS-Cisco Wireless LAN Design & Support Cisco Unity Design Specialist Cisco IP Telephony Design Specialist JNCIA-ER MCSE MCSA:Messaging |
Posted by: CIS2CO
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 6:13am
| Thanks Koen |
Posted by: Wildcat_Dude
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 6:38am
| If you'll register with Cisco, they'll send you email updates so you'll be aware of what's changing and when. As always, if you want to know what's going on with certifications - check the vendors web site before venturing down the winding road. I'm curious though, what is your experience level? Have you worked in IT? Currently working IT? How long if any? This isn't going to be a walk in the park. It'd help if you also have equipment that you can do hands on with or access to the equipment like you would if you attend Cisco's CCNA Networking Academy. Cisco also has the CCNA PrepCenter online which is free. ------------- MCSE:Security & MCSA:Security, MCDST, MCP XP, CompTIA Sec+, A+ & N+ USAF (68-77) SP K9 Vietnam Vet 1969-DaNang, 1970-Tuy Hoa, Retired Police Detective/Narcotics/K9 |
Posted by: CIS2CO
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 6:58am
| Dear Wildcat_Dude I have done degree in electronics and have studied networking in one of my module.I have CISCO router 2516 series and sometime I play around with it. I have some old books borrowed from friends. Now I am serious about CCNA and have made up my mind. I know its not easy but with little knollege about networking, I think its gonna be a challange Thanks for your help. |
Posted by: Wildcat_Dude
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 8:16am
| Studied networking? Studying and actually doing it is two entirely different prespectives. One router doesn't do you any good, but I suppose its a start. Personally, I think you're running into a brick wall before you even get started. I've seen too many people like you who without experience, decide that CCNA is their ticket to the big time. NightShade can disagree with his hypothecial friend who bucked the odds of someone with NO experience getting that type of job making hypothecial monies (it just doesn't happen in 99.99999999% of the time) regardless what he says. I much rather tell you what it is in the real world then give you false hope. A degree will go a long way - but so does EXPERIENCE. Everything in its own prespective will decide your future. ------------- MCSE:Security & MCSA:Security, MCDST, MCP XP, CompTIA Sec+, A+ & N+ USAF (68-77) SP K9 Vietnam Vet 1969-DaNang, 1970-Tuy Hoa, Retired Police Detective/Narcotics/K9 |
Posted by: BosonMichael
Date Posted: 12 July 2007 at 8:36am
| Neither a degree in electronics nor a CCNA certification will get you a job configuring routers because you don't have any real-world IT experience yet. I had a degree and 18 years of messing with computers, and I started out in an entry-level IT job (just like everyone else) as a field service tech. Thus, the CCNA will not help you get an entry-level job because the CCNA has nothing to do with entry-level IT job functions. The CCNA is a great certification to get. But if you're interested in IT, you should crawl before you walk, and walk before you run. Start out with the A+, get an entry-level IT job, and start building experience. Continue getting certifications - I'd recommend the Network+ certification next, then the soon-to-be-released CCENT if you're interested in networking. In time, you will be able to tackle the CCNA. Everyone starts at the bottom, but nobody said you have to stay there long. Best of luck to you. ------------- BosonMichael (formerly TMichael) MCSE+I, MCSE: Security, MCDST, MCDBA, OCP, CCNP, CCDP, CNE, SCSA, Security+, Linux+, Server+, Network+, A+ Served proudly, US Army, 98C Intelligence Analyst, '89-'92 |
Posted by: JDog0254
Date Posted: 16 July 2007 at 11:23am
I read this post and figured I would throw in my story. Let me start off by saying that I completely agree with what everyone says about experience. That being said, I went through the Networking Academy at the VoTech during my last two years in high school. I did very well in the Academy (I wish I could say the same for the rest of high school;) and got my ccna before graduating. I got EXTREMELY lucky and my instructors recommended me for a job working as a field engineer Cisco Silver Partner in my area. I got the job with no experience and after many times being thrown under the bus and even more sleepless nights I have really come into the position and established myself with colleauges and customers. So anyways, the point of all this is that although highly unlikely, you CAN fall into the .00000001 percentile. You just have to put everything you can into what you're trying to achieve and work your butt off. P.S. Becoming one with CCO doesn't hurt anything either;) ------------- JDog0254 CCNP,CCSP,A+,Network+,Server+ |
Posted by: BosonMichael
Date Posted: 16 July 2007 at 11:44am
So would you recommend that course of action to someone, at the risk of them not being able to find a job at all? ------------- BosonMichael (formerly TMichael) MCSE+I, MCSE: Security, MCDST, MCDBA, OCP, CCNP, CCDP, CNE, SCSA, Security+, Linux+, Server+, Network+, A+ Served proudly, US Army, 98C Intelligence Analyst, '89-'92 |
Posted by: Wildcat_Dude
Date Posted: 16 July 2007 at 12:12pm
| Sounds like his first job was like my first network admin job. Thrown into the fire, roasted, baked, stewed, jabbed, stabbed and then some with 80+ hrs the first year and 60+ the 2nd year. It was a hell of an experience right (plus 4 heart surgeries during that time) from the get go. I bet I had 6 years of experience thrown into those two years, although it was very hard as I was going to college at night (whenever I could get there) two nights a week, it was hell. But, crazy as it may have been, I wouldn't have traded it for anything but I also wouldn't have recommended that route either, of course back then all I had was the A+ and some NOC experience and pc tech experience - whew, glad that ride was over  ------------- MCSE:Security & MCSA:Security, MCDST, MCP XP, CompTIA Sec+, A+ & N+ USAF (68-77) SP K9 Vietnam Vet 1969-DaNang, 1970-Tuy Hoa, Retired Police Detective/Narcotics/K9 |
Posted by: JDog0254
Date Posted: 16 July 2007 at 3:47pm
TMichael, I guess I don't understand what you mean. I simply meant that one can accomplish anything they wanted if they put their mind to it and worked hard. ------------- JDog0254 CCNP,CCSP,A+,Network+,Server+ |
Posted by: JDog0254
Date Posted: 16 July 2007 at 3:56pm
| But I think I see what you're saying... Obviously a person should get any and all the experience they can get, and yes, that usually means starting from the bottom. I'm just saying that even if you have no experience, don't sell yourself short, just do everything in your power to get noticed. But what do I know... You guys are the vets  ------------- JDog0254 CCNP,CCSP,A+,Network+,Server+ |
Posted by: BosonMichael
Date Posted: 16 July 2007 at 7:24pm
Everything in my power to get noticed? Like... do a dance? What would you suggest? :) Sorry, man, I see it as bad advice. I've seen dozens (if not hundreds) of people who thought they "had the answer" by getting overcertified (some paying big bucks to do so), then tried to start "in the middle" or "at the top"... and then wondered why they weren't getting anywhere. On the other hand, there is a sure-fire way of getting an IT career to catch fire... if you're patient enough to rub two sticks together and blow on embers rather than wait for lightning to come along and start a huge bonfire. ------------- BosonMichael (formerly TMichael) MCSE+I, MCSE: Security, MCDST, MCDBA, OCP, CCNP, CCDP, CNE, SCSA, Security+, Linux+, Server+, Network+, A+ Served proudly, US Army, 98C Intelligence Analyst, '89-'92 |
Posted by: JDog0254
Date Posted: 17 July 2007 at 2:40am
| I still believe that one should start from WHEREVER he/she can to start gaining experience. I'm not suggesting that someone ignore these jobs all together, but simply not to be afraid to ALSO go for some of the bigger fish. I guess it would appear that way after reading back over my posts. Anyway, I hate to beat the subject to death. Like I said, I got lucky, so my view is probably a bit clouded. -point taken- ------------- JDog0254 CCNP,CCSP,A+,Network+,Server+ |