MCTs Demand
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Printed Date: 23 October 2007 at 10:43am
Topic: MCTs Demand
Posted by: danny
Subject: MCTs Demand
Date Posted: 06 January 2005 at 8:44am
Hello Folks!
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Requirement for MCT varies from country to country. In our case, MCT is the gauge to obtain employment. MCSE is rampant just like CCNA is now offered for a free course just to encourage prospect student to obtain CCNP.
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Server 2003 comes in i.e. different from MS 2k. I would say, MCT is now tough.
Danny
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Posted by: TranscenderMike
Date Posted: 06 January 2005 at 1:54pm
All you have to do to become an MCT is to
1) become an MCP, not even an MCSE
2) attend the MS course for the exam you take
3) pass CTT+ or an instructor skills course
4) pay the $400 USD yearly fee ($200 USD in UAE)
Therefore, because you only have to take 2 exams, it's much easier to become an MCT than to become an MCSE, as long as you're willing to shell out the money for a course and the fee.
In the US, unless you're applying for a training position, the MCT is not required - in fact, it's not required for many training positions. Therefore, in my opinion, it's not worth the time, trouble, or cost to maintain. Not here, anyway.
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Posted by: abarkl
Date Posted: 06 January 2005 at 3:35pm
The MCT certification requires a premier MCP certification such as the MCSE and has now for 2 years. It also requires each trainer to meet the minimum student feedback scores each year.
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mct/guide/ - MCT_Requirements
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Posted by: TranscenderMike
Date Posted: 07 January 2005 at 7:27am
I stand somewhat corrected - thanks, Andy. However, the MCSA works as well - http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mct/guide/one.asp - check here . Therefore, I still stand by my statement that an MCT is easier to get than an MCSE.
You are correct about the student requirement - it is somewhat difficult for plain-old network admins to teach 15 students during a 12-month period. Therefore, why set the MCT as a standard to hire a network admin? Doesn't make sense to me.
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Posted by: danny
Date Posted: 09 January 2005 at 8:24am
TranscenderMike wrote:
I stand somewhat corrected - thanks, Andy. However, the MCSA works as well Therefore, I still stand by my statement that an MCT is easier to get than an MCSE.
You are correct about the student requirement - it is somewhat difficult for plain-old network admins to teach 15 students during a 12-month period. Therefore, why set the MCT as a standard to hire a network admin? Doesn't make sense to me. |
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Hello Mike.
I agree your point. Generally, It all depends, an MCT is the highest qualifications so to speak. As you know some one should be an MCSE/MCDA etc to be an MCT., yet it doesn't mean only MCT can teach students. An IT career guys has lots of avenues i.e. besides of normal current job as an IT network Pro can share his knowledge thro' teaching in this way it will enhanced the learning experience since all the lesson on subject MCSE track is refresh from time to time in actual scenario case whereas a mere MCSA guys who is limited IT responsibilites might not be able to apply all what he has learned from classroom.
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Posted by: danny
Date Posted: 09 January 2005 at 8:49am
TranscenderMike wrote:
All you have to do to become an MCT is to
1) become an MCP, not even an MCSE
Therefore, because you only have to take 2 exams, it's much easier to become an MCT than to become an MCSE, as long as you're willing to shell out the money for a course and the fee.
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I think there's a confusion Mike. Please refer MCT requirement. If one obtained for MCP - it is equivalent to one exam course only. I doubt that IT guy might not be able to delivery a full MS curriculum class. Typically, IT admin is expert in installing a printer but he/she misses higher courses.
Danny
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Posted by: TranscenderMike
Date Posted: 10 January 2005 at 7:49am
danny wrote:
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Hello Mike.
I agree your point. Generally, It all depends, an MCT is the highest qualifications so to speak. As you know some one should be an MCSE/MCDA etc to be an MCT., yet it doesn't mean only MCT can teach students. An IT career guys has lots of avenues i.e. besides of normal current job as an IT network Pro can share his knowledge thro' teaching in this way it will enhanced the learning experience since all the lesson on subject MCSE track is refresh from time to time in actual scenario case whereas a mere MCSA guys who is limited IT responsibilites might not be able to apply all what he has learned from classroom. |
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You are correct that an MCT can do more than teach, but an MCT *must* teach in order to maintain the certification. It is almost impossible for an admin to maintain the MCT requirements due to the requirement to teach 15 students per year.
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Posted by: profallanburgos
Date Posted: 10 August 2007 at 10:37am
Hello everybody,
I just passed the MCSA on Windows Server 2003 the other day. I wanted to apply for the Certification on MCT. I am a university professor here in Bahrain. I tried to use the MCT Enrollment Wizard in MCP member site. But you need an MTM number. There are 4 options in order for you to become MCT. I can satisfy the Option 4 but I do not know if my institution is an accredited academic institution from Microsoft. Please help.
Allan A. Burgos, MCP, MSCS, MCSA |
Posted by: profallanburgos
Date Posted: 10 August 2007 at 10:43am
I am also a Cisco 1- 4 Instructor but I am not yet certified. But I have an account for the Cisco Systems. Would I be able to qualify for the option 3?
Allan A. Burgos, MCP, MSCS, MCSA |
Posted by: darthmauler
Date Posted: 20 September 2007 at 7:37am
I am a bit bothered by your statement. When I went to become and MCT, it was hard, there were 15 of us, we were all invited to take this week long class at no cost and they drilled us, technically, presentation, methods, you name it. Out of those 15 only 5 of us made it. I could not talk for 3 days after I got certified. When you pay for a cert and not be forced to earn it you get just what it is, not much of anything.
This just goes back to how you perform. If you have a standard of excellence...you will turn out MCTs that are worth something. All of the Paper MCSEs and cert chasers will never be good at what they do. At TechEd this year we mixed with all the MCTs and most of the MCTs work for a firm or their own companies and take that real world experience and impart it to their students. I work for Hp and training and real world experience is so vital. Anyone can read out of the book and show PowerPoint and regurgitate what they have read. When you start a design class or implementation class do the address doing a risk assessment which will address many issue before a deployment starts? Look at how things are addressed, if they can fix a lab, take a hard look at their ability.
I value my certs, I have worked hard and always maintain my technical knowledge and learn the new stuff. If you have not been in the field since 4.0 or 2000 and you are trying to teach you will be lacking in the troubleshooting and application of the technology. Stay in the field and work the products you teach and become certified in what you teach. Microsoft says I am certified to teach a ton of stuff but if I have not taken the test and worked with the product in a production environment I will not teach it.
You can obtain any cert or degree…right!!! To be good at it is something totally different. MCTs should be the best but of course there will be weak MCTs as in any career field. You determine what and how the student view us, not the cert.
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