70-291
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Printed Date: 16 October 2007 at 2:47am
Topic: 70-291
Posted by: Lucas
Subject: 70-291
Date Posted: 18 July 2007 at 9:28am
| Hello guys, I've been reading forum little bit to find some more info about 70-291 exam which Im about to take as a first exam on my MCSA path. Yes, I know, Im starting wrong way - some of you might say, but I started MS TK and when I was half way through it I started searching for more info about MCSA path on forums like this one and I know everyone is recomending to start with 70-270 first, but hey too late, and Im moving forward. I have 5 years experience with MS operating systems, but only one year experiance on a domain level. Im about to finish last chapter of the book and go through some reviews, test examples and such. I still don't know what to expect on the exam though. How does it look like? How does the simulations look like? How much time do I have for how many questions and the last one what is the best place to be tested? Thank you all for suggestions and answers. Lucas |
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Posted by: Wildcat_Dude
Date Posted: 18 July 2007 at 11:00am
| Sometimes going too far forward will only set you back, but, you do what you gonna do. I hope TK isn't what I think it is. Be sure to let Microsoft know so they can give you a discount (evil smile now appearing)  If you're going to take exams, visit the vendors web site. All kinds of information can be gleened there as well as reviewing some of the content here at certcities.com like http://certcities.com/editorial/exams/story.asp?EditorialsID =81 - the 70-291 review Andy Barkl - the forum admin did ------------- MCSE:Security & MCSA:Security, MCDST, MCP XP, CompTIA Sec+, A+ & N+ USAF (68-77) SP K9 Vietnam Vet 1969-DaNang, 1970-Tuy Hoa, Retired Police Detective/Narcotics/K9 |
Posted by: Lucas
Date Posted: 18 July 2007 at 11:11am
| I was talking about MS Training Kit ofcourse :-) What do you mean by "set you back"? I didn't have problems with understanding what I was reading. I don't feel like I'm lost in tons of information so hopefully I'll be fine. Thanks for the link. Im going through it now. Has anything changed since though? I see the link info was posted in 2003. |
Posted by: Wildcat_Dude
Date Posted: 18 July 2007 at 11:20am
| I'd bet money on it, those aren't like the 2000 exams that were pretty much static (a few variations). Do you think you can find the info on MS's web site ok? Have you taken and passed any of MS's exams yet? Once you get your MCP #, you can create your account on the MCP secure site and have access to a few tools. The certification planner is a nice tool to use. Oh and thanks for clearing up that TK thingy  Gotta watch around here, a few tend not to be too ethical.And welcome to the forums. Good luck on the exams, they can be a humdinger if you're not prepared on all the objectives. ------------- MCSE:Security & MCSA:Security, MCDST, MCP XP, CompTIA Sec+, A+ & N+ USAF (68-77) SP K9 Vietnam Vet 1969-DaNang, 1970-Tuy Hoa, Retired Police Detective/Narcotics/K9 |
Posted by: BosonMichael
Date Posted: 18 July 2007 at 11:31am
| Yeah, there's a certain vendor with the initials TK that sells braindumps, which can get you decertified for life. I'm glad you're studying from the Training Kit and NOT their products. Yeah, I would have recommended that you start with 70-270 first, if for no other reason than to get your feet wet, and to help address your slight anxiety about what to expect on the exam. In contrast, 70-291 is basically an updated Win2K3 version of the old 70-216 Win2K MCSE exam, which was nicknamed "The Beast". That doesn't really sound like an exam you'd want to *start* with, does it? ;) The number of questions can change at Microsoft's discretion. If I remember correctly, the last I heard, there were 40-something questions, but don't take that as gospel. Due to non-disclosure rules (you have to electronically sign a non-disclosure agreement before you take the exam, so you'll eventually be bound as well), we can't reveal what you'll see on the exam. You can purchase a practice exam simulator, but it won't be *exactly* like what you'll see on the live exam. The amount of time for each exam is listed on Microsoft's Web site, I believe. Where's the best place to take the exam? I don't know - every testing center is different. Some are well managed, and some are not. Some have more modern equipment, and some have older equipment. Some never have a problem delivering an exam, and some rarely get it right. But since this is a worldwide forum, I can't tell you which one near you is best. That said, if you want to come to Nashville, I've had pretty good luck with New Horizons... :D ------------- BosonMichael (formerly TMichael) MCSE+I, MCSE: Security, MCDST, MCDBA, OCP, CCNP, CCDP, CNE, SCSA, Security+, Linux+, Server+, Network+, A+ Served proudly, US Army, 98C Intelligence Analyst, '89-'92 |
Posted by: Lucas
Date Posted: 18 July 2007 at 12:05pm
| "The beast" doesn't sound freindly ;-) I do not have any MCP certificates yet. And I'm wondering now, based on your advices, which one to take first. I feel bad though, cause I've already spent soooo much time on this book and labs that it would be waste of time not to take it. On the top of that propably I would have to refresh lots of info again ;/ What do you guys think? Thanks for nice welcome. |
Posted by: BosonMichael
Date Posted: 18 July 2007 at 12:42pm
| 70-270 is the Windows XP client exam. If you've got XP experience, I'd recommend starting there. ------------- BosonMichael (formerly TMichael) MCSE+I, MCSE: Security, MCDST, MCDBA, OCP, CCNP, CCDP, CNE, SCSA, Security+, Linux+, Server+, Network+, A+ Served proudly, US Army, 98C Intelligence Analyst, '89-'92 |
Posted by: Wildcat_Dude
Date Posted: 18 July 2007 at 1:37pm
| I had no reading time with any book on XP, just went and took the exam plus the two MCDST exams, again no book until a few days prior to the exam, by then I just breezed through a few pages, took both exams on the same morning. Challenging to say the least, but it wasn't bad either, kinda fun but was brain drained afterwards. I'd wager if you have 6 months of "good" solid experience, you shouldn't too much problem with the 270. You know you can take the 70-210 just as well if you're up on 2000 pro experience, it might make it easier for you. I will assume you're going for the 2003 MCSE - correct? ------------- MCSE:Security & MCSA:Security, MCDST, MCP XP, CompTIA Sec+, A+ & N+ USAF (68-77) SP K9 Vietnam Vet 1969-DaNang, 1970-Tuy Hoa, Retired Police Detective/Narcotics/K9 |
Posted by: Lucas
Date Posted: 08 October 2007 at 12:14pm
Hey, sorry fot not answering for so long. I got stuck with work etc I finished 70-291 microsoft Training Kit but didn't take the exam yet as I got scared off by few people here :-) I'm now skimming 70-270 book because it seems simple, most of the stuff I already know, and I don't want to waste time reading 1300 pages page by page :-( Yes, I'm going towards MCSE (one day ;-) Im soo lazy though, can't get myself motivated enough. |
Posted by: CharlesD
Date Posted: 08 October 2007 at 1:18pm
We don't try to scare you off (unless its brain dumpers or those who want to cheat). Hey, if you finished the kit and think you can pass it, go for it if you want. Microsoft has a 2nd shot offer now (look for that topic here on the forums, do a search), sign up, if you don't pass on the 1st try, you get a free 2nd attempt (with the code that's given to you in an email). Same for most any Microsoft exam as long as you haven't taken it before and its good until Jan 2008, so get with it  , don't drag your feet.------------- MCSE:Security & MCSA:Security, MCDST, MCP XP, CompTIA Sec+, A+ & N+ USAF (68-77) SP K9 Vietnam Vet 1969-DaNang, 1970-Tuy Hoa, Retired Police Detective/Narcotics/K9 |
Posted by: Lucas
Date Posted: 08 October 2007 at 8:23pm
That's what I think, but I've never taken any of MS exams yet so I have no clue what to expect. That's why I postponed it after taking under consideration few posts from my older colleagues here. I'll try with 270 which seems to be much easier and then 291 right after. Thanks for pointing out 2nd shot. I will use it for sure. |
Posted by: BosonMichael
Date Posted: 09 October 2007 at 3:45am
| If you haven't done 70-270 or 70-290, I'd suggest doing BOTH of them first. 70-291 builds on the skills you learn while studying 270 and 290. If you're looking for a good "warm up", you can do exams 70-271 and 70-272, which will grant you the MCDST certification. ------------- BosonMichael (formerly TMichael) MCSE+I, MCSE: Security, MCDST, MCDBA, OCP, CCNP, CCDP, CNE, SCSA, Security+, Linux+, Server+, Network+, A+ Served proudly, US Army, 98C Intelligence Analyst, '89-'92 |