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...Home ... Editorial ... News ..News Story Monday: December 27, 2010


InfiniBand: Customers Are Out There?


7/10/2006 -- Think Cisco Systems Inc. isn't bullish about InfiniBand? Think again. Cisco last month announced a common framework that integrates both Ethernet and InfiniBand, along with integrated end-to-end management software and a new InfiniBand switching platform and operating system software.

The announcement is good news for joint users of InfiniBand and Ethernet, analysts say, but its potential applicability is limited. "[T]he InfiniBand market is small and limited to high-performance computing clusters and is threatened by the falling prices of 10 Gigabit Ethernet equipment," says Steven Schuchart, a senior analyst for enterprise infrastructure with consultancy Current Analysis. "InfiniBand is still largely a boutique technology and Cisco is the only major Ethernet switch provider to sell InfiniBand equipment, so its management integration only slightly bolsters an already dominant position in the market."

In addition to management integration -- which includes CiscoWorks LMS, Resource Manager Essentials and Dynamic Fault Manager, all of which support Cisco's SFS-7000 Series InfiniBand switches -- Cisco announced a new InfiniBand switch offering, the 7000D Series InfiniBand DDR switch. All told, Cisco's moves help further buttress its position as the InfiniBand provider of choice, Schuchart says, because they give customers a way to manage both the Ethernet network as well as the InfiniBand network with familiar tools. In addition, he notes, the operating systems for the SFS 7000 series have been updated to reflect familiar Cisco IOS commands and command line structures.

That's the good news. The not-so-good news, on the other hand, concerns the InfiniBand market itself, which is relatively small and confined to high-performance computing clusters, Schuchart notes.

"Cisco's own high performance Ethernet equipment is currently eclipsed by competitors Foundry Networks and Force 10 Networks. This announcement will only help with high-performance computing sales where InfiniBand has been chosen as the transport of choice," he points out.

There is, however, a small chance Cisco's beaucoup integration push could be a catalyst for InfiniBand uptake, Schuchart concedes. "With the unification of management across Ethernet and InfiniBand product lines, Cisco is eliminating some of the costs associated with point tools for management on the network, including some software licensing, training and procedural costs," he acknowledges, noting, for example, that "with a familiar interface, it will be much easier for administrators to handle both interconnect networks."

Cisco's new InfiniBand switches boast double data rate transfers of up to 20/Gbps -- approximately twice that of 10 Gigabit Ethernet. Impressive performance, to be sure, but there's a strong likelihood that Gigabit Ethernet -- or some Ethernet-based derivative -- will ultimately bury InfiniBand, Schuchart says. "The most significant drawback is the uncertainly of InfiniBand itself. InfiniBand is in its second life, but will be going up against 10 Gigabit Ethernet. Considering Ethernet's track record of completely displacing competing technologies, the long-term prospects for InfiniBand do not look good."  -Stephen Swoyer



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7/11/06: Boyracer from SEA says: Sorry... but 20Gbps IB is only 16Gbps DATA rate. However 10Gbps Ethernet already advertises data rate. With 8x PCI Express you theoretically get 8 times 2 Gbps but reality is more like 13-14. Thus: Look at 10Gbps Ethernet optimized vendors who get latency down way below 10usec. Boyracer
7/11/06: Txjak from AUS says: Sorry, but 10GE uses the same technology on the wire as 10GIB, so latency is all the difference. 10GIB latency is much lower than 10GE. There is no such thing as 20GE yet, BTW.
7/12/06: Boyracer from SEA says: @Txjak : 10GE is NOT using the same technology as 10G IB IB latency is in reality 5-6usec ! I am not talking about marketing numbers here. DDR IB has problems with cables , memory registration, instable IB stacks. And offers roughly 13Gbps vs 10 for 10GE. Also, Direct Ethernet gives you 3!!! usec latency. How many IB system have you installed yourself? We totally will focus on 10GE. We need 20GE when we have x16 PCIe ...
7/13/06: soldack says: i used to work for an IB company. 10 GbE is similar to IB cables but has different equalization. It is also running at a different rate such that 10 GbE is 10Gb of data while 4XSDR IB is only 8 Gb of data. Of source IB has 4XDDR (16 Gb data) and 12XSDR (24Gb data) hardware avaialble today. The big difference comes at the switch side. IB switches are much cheaper than 10Gb ethernet switches. This is especially true as you scale up in ports. Try comparing a full bisectional bandwidth 144 port 4XDDR switch to an ethernet switch of similar size and bandwidth. It all comes back to how IB does routing...with a subnet manager controlling the routes, IB can hook up lots of small switches and maintain full bisectional bandwidth. With ethernet you usually have spanning tree which will often not use redundant routes at all or 802.3AD which only helps with multple connections between two swiches.
7/17/06: Anonymous says: PCIe gen2 signaling will provide 2x the bandwidth of today's offerings so local IO can keep up. The question is whether memory technology can keep up as its performance cuver is significantly slower than networks. In fact, it may flatten in the DDR4 time frame meaning that all IO will see flattened performance. In the end IB and iWARP (RDMA over TCPIP - Ethernet) are the same technologies in many respects. The performance will converge to be very similar. The QoS, bandwidth, multi-path, congestion, etc. will also converge in the coming years. This is what Cisco appears to be focused upon - learn from IB today and take that forward as Ethernet evolves. Once you get past the poor marketroids and their apple-orange comparisons, you find that management is the key and the application performance over RDMA interconnects is about the same. This is where customers may become more focused since it goes to the bottom line of IT costs and application availability.
7/21/06: simpleton says: Missing the point? IB silicon, landed on the motherboard of a server, costs less than $26 for 10Gbit, and 20, 40 and 60 gbit silicon is only a few dollars more. IB silicon at 40Gbits is less than 1/100th the cost per-unit-of-bandwidth of 10Gb ethernet. Moreover, IB silicon uses (quite literally) about 1/100th of the power of 10Gb ethernet. Why do techies so quickly forget that it's ultimately >>performance per dollar<< that wins? Maybe I'm wrong...and Cisco is too. All I know is that IB makes sense to me at the level of fundamental economics, and as long as Ethernet silicon continues to require TCP, the heat and power and cost considerations make it a sitting duck for IB in cluster interconnect and storage markets.
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