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.. Home .. Certifications .. Oracle .. News ..News Story Saturday, September 06, 2003

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Oracle Adds Training Requirement To DBA Title


6/26/2002 -- On June 15, Oracle instituted a policy requiring those seeking its Oracle Certified Professional Database Administrator 9i certification to take a related training course.

Effective immediately, candidates new to the 9i OCP DBA track must take one of the following classes from Oracle University:

  • Oracle9i Introduction to SQL
  • Oracle9i Database Fundamentals I.
  • Oracle9i Database Fundamentals II
  • Oracle9i Database Performance Tuning
  • Oracle9i Database New Features (available to those with Oracle DBA experience on previous releases)
  • Introduction to Oracle: SQL and PL/SQL

To fulfill the requirement, candidates can attend classroom training (starting at $2,000 U.S.) or use one of Oracle University's e-learning products (starting at $399 US).

Those who have passed at least one Oracle 9i exam before June 15 are exempted from the requirement, as are those upgrading their OCP from the 8i version.

"We are moving to the class requirement in order to protect the value and integrity of the Oracle Certification Program and ensure that the value of the accreditation remains high for the people who attain all levels of OCP," Oracle said of the new policy.

Michael Ritacco, a Senior DBA in Houston, Texas and the founder of OracleNotes.com, a Web site for OCP candidates, said he likes the idea of mandatory training. "At least the training requirement will ensure that a candidate was presented a minimum amount of information along with some hands-on experiences in the labs," he said. "If the certification program produces too many paper DBAs, you lower the quality of the certification, and that hurts everyone."

As for the additional cost, Ritacco suspects that many DBAs will shrug it off. "If you're working as a DBA, even if you're not certified, employers will usually at least pay for the upgrade class, which qualifies under these requirements," he continued.

Other DBAs aren't quite as enthusiastic. "I think it's a horrible idea," said one poster in CertCities.com's forums. "The idea of a certification is to show that you've developed skills in an area. This smacks of Oracle simply trying to help pad their bottom line at the expense of professionals who are, in the end, only serving as a positive source of advertising for the company in the first place."

Damir Bersinic, DBA, trainer and author of CertCities.com's Oracle column, says he's also suspicious of Oracle's financial motives: "They don't make money from tests...they make money from training. Who gets the money here? Oracle."

""It's not going to do anything to improve the quality of the program," he continued. "It would be different if they had said everyone must take Performance Tuning or Backup and Recovery...The way it is now, anyone can walk into Introduction to 9i and come out not knowing much about Oracle, just about SQL syntax. "

According to Oracle, there are more than 115,000 Oracle Certified Professionals worldwide.

To find out more about Oracle's certification program, click here. To view the training policy in its entirety, click here.  - B.N.


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Current CertCities.com user Comments for "Oracle Adds Training Requirement To DBA Title"
6/26/02 - amit  from india says: well oralce had just played the game with the students who are doing the ocp dba 9i certification the instructor lead classes are just the means of earning money from the students nothing else well the point is that oracle 8i dba's need not to do all this instructor lead classes and only oracle 9i dba had to just go from this path and are just going to suffer i also cant under stand the meaning of exempting those students from the training course. who had cleared one exam of ocp dba 9i well this is really confusing and we really oppose the decision of oracle company
6/26/02 - angelo mays  from washington, dc says: THIS IS PURE GREED! 5 OUT OF THE 6 OF THE COURES ARE SO BASIC IT WILL DO NOTHING TO MAKE YOU A BETTER ORACLK DBA. I AM A MS SQL7.0 DBA AND I JUST BOUGHT MY BOOKS FOR 9I, I GUEST I AM GOING TO TAKE THEM BACK AND DO IBM DB2!
6/27/02 - phil  from europa says: I've planned to pass oracle ceretification at the end of the year. Now, I've changed my plan. It's not totally true, that's if I attend a course, that's I earn enough good experience. In the past, I attend some Oracle course organized by Oracle. It was bad, The class was installed with one release of administrative tools, the book present other release and at work we used other products. I learned the concept but not how to use the product, and I don't want loose my time to attend other Oracle course ! I go to the concurrency. If they want to have more experienced certified, they need to change the format and use more simulations.
6/27/02 - Grizzly Bear  says: Forget 9i and go for 8i DBA. You don't need the course for 8i OCP DBA. Big shops still use 8.0 or 8i. Employers don't understand the difference 8i-9i but they know about the OCP term (oracle certified professional). There is a lot of confusion about this new requirement... lots of conflicting postings on oracle-related forums... $400 only for the online ILT? well that's cheap, I read the cheapest online ILT was well over $1000.
6/27/02 - Salaries  says: 9i DBA is not better than 8i DBA. 8i DBAs with 5 year experience earn a lot of money. 9i DBAs with little or no oracle experience work for temporary employment agencies and make crap salaries. Stop the hype over oracle 9i. It's just plain ridiculous.
6/27/02 - Daniel   from Houston,TX says: Just one more source of income for Oracle with no good reason. How low will they go to try and make money.
6/27/02 - Thinkaboutit  says: First off...You do not have to take the courses directly from Oracle. You can take the (1) course at any Oracle Academic or Workforce partner which are usually much lower in price. So how would that be greedy? If you can't afford to learn Oracle maybe you should try something else. You are going to spend a fortune on books and training over the course of your career, so if this bothers you, then maybe a job in technology is not for you.
6/29/02 - Anonymous says: Oracle9i RULES!
6/30/02 - Anonymous says: this is shameful. greed at its best. i thought the 8i certs are no longer available and that any certs are now going to be in 9i. So how can one go for 8i when it is not even offered?? is it offered anymor?? let me know please.
7/4/02 - harish  from india gujarat says: hi i have problem for finding how i prepar for oracle dba exam and how to know about all exam please help me and u have good study matterial.please send me
7/4/02 - harish kabra  from gujarat baroda says: Freinds i realy got confuse after reading all this stuff about oracle 9i DBA exam from u gyus..... can someone tell me is this course is worth or useless.....please let me know asap as imay join after week.....
7/6/02 - Michael  from Bangkok says: These certifications are hyped way beyond they true value. Its just a means of propping up they bottomline. Oracle has now delivered a double whammy. First they pull out of JCert initiative and now this. Forget the certification you can still go for other dba certs like IBM etc.
7/7/02 - Pranil  from Singapore says: I bought the books to study for the exam less than a month ago, and just found out that I have to go for a 5 day course in order to get certified. This is a ridiculous idea just to line up Oracle's pockets! I still don't see how attending a 5 day course will make me a better OCP! I had been an Oracle DBA before and I can't see why would someone with experience needs to attend these lousy classes (at that price anyway) - I have attended Oracle course before and I sure the hell won't pay from it from my own pocket. I exploring options to go for SQLServer or DB2 certification instead and I am deeply disappointed at this move by Oracle, being a big fan of it for the last 5 years..
7/7/02 - Mike  says: I went to Oracle's site and it seems that the Oracle 8i cert path is still available http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/index.html?certpaths.html . However, the oracle site did also say that "all newly starting OCP credential candidates" were required to complete 1 hands on course. From the list they provided, couldn't they make a new 8i candidate take the Introduction to Oracle:SQL and PLSQL course listed? If they can't, then I would probably more likely go for an 8i cert at this point. If anyone can clarify about this requirement, it would be appreciated.
7/8/02 - Partha Chakraborty  from Calcutta says: Hi, Does any knows where to get the OCP - DBA exam. materials to prepare for the OCP papers.... Please let me know .... Thanks
7/8/02 - Becky Nagel  from Web Editor, CertCities.com says: Hi Mike -- Oracle's spokesperson told me that if someone does the 8i track, they do not need to do the educational requirements. The policy is worded strangely -- there's a lot that's not quite clear. That's what they told me when I asked for clarification. -- Becky
7/8/02 - Joke  says: Does Oracle want money so much? If Oracle really need money so much ,it can ask every people in the world denote one cent to it ,then it can get much more money than the training fee! If you take 5 day course, you can be a better OCP,If you not,you will be just paper OCP. Do you believe that?no kidding.
7/8/02 - Atul  from Hyderabad says: Its Totally rediculous & greed! I never thought Oracle would ever play so cheap game. Total sh*t on them, I say MS-Sql server is much much better, Hey Oracle people Keep your this 9i in Ur A**h*le
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